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Quora: 中国禁掉了“颓废”音乐,为什么巴西不这么做呢?

2018-01-27 | 分类:文化 | 评论:0人

China banned Hip-Hop and other degenerative musics. Why doesn’t Brazil start doing the same?

中国禁掉了嘻哈等颓废音乐,为什么巴西不这么做呢?

【美版知乎quora问答】

Robin Daverman, world traveler
Answered Wed
China banned Hip-Hop and other degenerative musics. Why doesn’t Brazil start doing the same?
LOL! Don’t be silly.
What happened in China was that a Hip Hop singer wrote a song, which went something like “it’s Christmas night, I’m gonna do some drugs and f*ck some bi*ch”, and the whole country went into an apoplectic shock! A public figure, glorifying drug use and insulting women! What has the world come to! What the heck is the government doing, allow this kind of stuff to happen! The government must step in, to defend our children!!

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哈哈……别傻了。
是这样的,一位嘻哈歌手写了一首歌,歌词例如“圣诞之夜,我买了些粉,干了一些碧池”,整个国家都震惊了!一个公众人物,赞扬毒品又侮辱女人!世界怎么这样!怎么会让这样的事情发生!政府必须介入,保护我们的孩子!

You have to understand – most Chinese have never been robbed in their entire lives, most Chinese youngsters have never seen drugs or guns in real life. Young girls go out alone at 2 am in the morning for ice cream without a care. Regular police are not armed. Violent crimes are quite rare in China. Murder rate is 0.74 per 100,000 people in China, vs. 27 in Brazil. Both drug use and sexual violence can get you the death penalty in China. It’s that kind of extreme behavior. So a song that seems to be normalizing extremely criminal behavior is totally unacceptable in China. List of countries by intentional homicide rate

你得明白……大多数中国人一辈子都没遇到过抢劫,大多数中国的年轻人从未见过毒品或枪支。
年轻女孩可以为了卖一根冰激凌在凌晨2点安全出门。
普通警察没有武器。暴力犯罪在中国很少见。
中国谋杀率是每10万人0.74人,而巴西是27人。
在中国,吸毒和性暴力都可能会被判死刑,这是极端行为。
所以,一首似乎使犯罪正常化的歌曲,在中国是不受待见的。

Brazil has real gang wars, real drug kingpins, a ton of violent crimes. Heck, it even has real recordings of top politicians planning assassinations and drug running. And there’s nothing you can do about that. Drugs and violent crimes are already normal in Brazil. If the Brazilians aren’t shocked by real crimes, why in the world would they be shocked by somebody singing about it?

巴西存在真正的帮派战争,暴力犯罪严重。巴西甚至还有高层政客计划暗杀和贩毒的真实记录。你对此无能为力。毒品和暴力犯罪在巴西司空见惯,如果巴西人对真正的犯罪行为不感到震惊,又怎会因歌颂这种行为的歌曲而震惊呢?

 

Taciano Perez, I’ve been a Brazilian for 40 years
Answered Wed
Let’s say, for the sake of argument, that Brazil would start banning “degenerative” music.
Who gets to choose what songs are “degenerative”, and what are not? Judges? Congress? The president? You???
In any case, we would be creating another great opportunity for embezzlement, bribery and corruption.
The only condition I would support banning “degenerative” music is if I personally get to decide it :-).

为论证这点,打个比方,巴西开始禁止“颓废”音乐。

谁决定哪些歌是“颓废”的,哪些不是?巴西法官?国会?总统还是你?

无论如何,这样会为巴西人的贪污、贿赂、腐败创造另一个巨大机会的。

我支持禁止“颓废”音乐的唯一条件是,如果我能亲自决定的话。

 

Logan Brouse, Bar Owner
Answered Wed
Yeah, no it didn’t. China has a very popular show called RICH – rap in China which is all about Chinese hip hop. Great show and fun albeit weird judges. Nothing banned though

不,没被禁。中国有一个非常火的节目叫“中国有嘻哈”,都是关于中国嘻哈文化的。
很好的节目

 

Mario Ramos
Answered Wed
Brazil and the PROC have very different cultural, historical and political backgrounds. These alone create very different outlooks on what is acceptable or not as social norms.

巴西和中国的文化、历史、政治背景不同。仅是这些,就对什么能被接受、什么违反社会规范存在不同的观点。

Further, censorship is a very dangerous tool. It’s hard to clearly define its scope and limits without creating the perception of repression in the population at large. When that happens, political backlash or passive resistance is certain.

再者,审查很难明确界定范围和限制,而不对大多数人口造成压力。否则可能会出现反弹或消极抵抗。

Every society has its own natural dinamical equilibrium point between order and chaos defining how permissive it can be.

在定义混乱和秩序之间,每个社会都有其自然动态平衡点。

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