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Is China colonizing Africa?

中国在非洲殖民吗?

【美版知乎quora问答】

Michelle Zhou
Updated Jun 4, 2016
This is what the Chinese called: To gauge the heart of a gentleman with one’s own mean measure.
600 years ago, a Chinese treasure fleet composed of 240+ ships, nearly 28,000 men, firearms and cannons arrived in Africa, before the Portuguese. China did not become a colonial master or a slave owner. Instead of robbing the continent China did the opposite by presenting gifts of gold. All China took from Africa was lions, zebras, ostriches and giraffe.
Actions speaks louder than words.
The gentleman aims at harmony, and not at uniformity. As Confucius said, “the gentleman understands what is moral; the small man understands what is profitable.”

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正如中国人所说:以小人之心度君子之腹。

600年前,在葡萄牙人之前,一支由240多艘船、28000名人、火器和大炮组成的中国舰队抵达非洲。中国并没有成为殖民者或奴隶主,非但没掠夺,反而还赠以黄金。中国从非洲得到的是狮子、斑马、鸵鸟和长颈鹿。

事实胜于雄辩。君子和而不同。孔子云,君子坦荡荡,小人长戚戚。

 

Karl Muth, teaches Economics, Public Policy, and Statistics at Northwestern University
Answered Apr 24, 2014
Absolutely. When I lived in Africa (northern Uganda, 2011-2013), the Chinese were seen as friendly colonizers and often compared favorably to the British. Chinese businesspeople (I’m Chinese) were respected and some local people even spoke bits of Mandarin (it’s notable that Chinese visitors often spoke elementary Swahili to introduce themselves and make a good impression). The Chinese are very interested in controlling pipelines, minerals, etc. I visited a Chinese bauxite mine in South Sudan and it was an incredibly impressive operation. At the time, the Chinese were discussing funding an oil pipeline from Sudan to Mombasa and they have very ambitious plans for controlling infrastructure like ports and power grids. Africa, tired of begging Europe and the Americans for money, happily accepted investment from the Chinese. Somaliland even released 1,000 shilling coins with the animals of the Chinese zodiac to make Chinese investors feel more at home. In essence, the difference is that, today, Africa is asking to be colonized and China has accepted the invitation.

那是肯定的。我在非洲时,中国人通常被拿来与英国人比较,被视为友好的殖民者。中国商人受到尊重,一些当地人甚至会说一点中文(一些中国人会说点基础的斯瓦希里语,给当地人留下了好印象)。

中国人对控制管道运输、矿产等很感兴趣。我参观了南苏丹的一个中国铝土矿,让人印象非常深刻。当时,中国正讨论的苏丹到蒙巴萨的输油管建设,他们有很宏大的计划,控制港口和电网等基础设施

非洲厌倦了对欧美的乞讨,高兴地接收了中国的投资。索马里甚至发行1000先令的硬币,印着中国生肖。让中国投资者更自在。本质上不同之处在于,非洲要求被“殖民”,中国接受了邀请。

 

Bill David, an ordinary one, would like to know everthing
Answered Apr 24, 2014
The local people are best qualified to speak on this question. Here’s my view.
In essence, no difference from what western countries do. Exploit the natural resources to make money. However, what makes them different is that this kind of exploitation also helps local people, which colonization DOES NOT. You can see from the economic development of local areas, and infrastructures, and especially the medical and health conditions. Remember that there’s no friendship between countries, but INTERESTS. Therefore, this is fine.

当地人最有资格发言。这是我的观点:

本质上,与西方国家所做的没区别。利用当地资源赚钱。然而,他们的不同在于,这种剥削也帮助着当地人,这是殖民没有的。你可以从当地的经济发展和基础设施,特别是医疗和健康状况看出来这点。国家之间没有友谊只有利益,这样很好。

 

Ronnie Otieno, I live in Africa so I know a thing or 10,000 about it
Answered Oct 24
No it is not.
China is doing business and at the same improving their influence. China wants global dominance too.
Colonization is not building a railway to be used by ‘natives’. Colonization was building railways for easy transportation of farm produce and minerals to countries of the imperialists.
Colonization is not signing contract and memorandum of understanding between China and African countries. Colonization was making laws and agreements in Europe and applying them forcibly to locals using puppets or force.

中国不是在殖民非洲,中国在非洲做生意,同时提升他们的影响力。中国也想要主导全球。

殖民化并不会建设一条让土著使用的铁路,殖民时期建路只是为了更便捷地将农产品和矿产运到帝国主义。

殖民化不是中国和非洲国家间签订合同和谅解备忘录。殖民化是在欧洲制定法律协定,并强行在当地使用傀儡和武力。

Colonization is not learning local languages by the Chinese. We were the one to learn imperialists languages. Well Chinese are the ones going extra mile to learn our local languages. Wow!
Colonization was forcing people from their fertile land because they wanted to cultivate there. Chinese are doing nothing of that sort.

殖民化不是由中国人学习当地语言;我们曾学习帝国主义语言。中国人却学习我们的语言。

殖民化强迫人们到肥沃的土地上,因为他们想在那里耕作。中国人可不这么做。

Colonization was constructing certain neighborhoods and schools for the white families and constructing mediocre ones for the locals. Chinese is building infrastructure for everyone.
Colonization was doing whatever you wanted. The land was extension of your country. Chinese know that they are dealing with independent countries with governments and their is specific channel for everything.

殖民化为白人建设特定的社区和学校,为当地人建造普通社区。中国为当地人建设基础设施。

殖民化能做你想所的事情,这片土地是你们国家的延伸。中国知道他们是与独立政府打交道,一切事情都通过具体渠道。

Colonization was always oppressing the natives. Chinese are doing nothing like that. Africans are free to resist or accept. It’s not forcing of anything.
Lastly we are not out there picking cotton and fetching rubber for Chinese government. We are free as we have been. Having Chinese in our continents is our decision but it seems like some media and people are butthurt for nothing.

殖民化总压迫土著。中国人不会那么做。非洲人可以自由地抵制或接受。没有任何强迫。

最后,我们并非为中国摘棉花和取橡胶。我们和过去一样自由。中国人在我们的大陆上,是我们自己的决定。倒是似乎有一些媒体和闲人在多管闲事。

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