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2017-09-25 | 分类:资讯 | 评论:0人

Did China steal high-speed rail technology from Germany or other countries?

中国偷了德国的高铁技术吗?

译文来源:Quora中文网 http://quora123.com/101.html

美国Quora网友的讨论:

Benjamin Hoffmeister, studied at Berlin-Kolleg
Answered Sep 3

They bought Germany’s Transrapid — so it wasn’t stolen

他们买德国的磁悬浮列车,不是偷来的

 

Dream Ahmed
Answered Sep 3

Sure no .. and now china is supporting many countries with technology of high speed train

当然不是偷的

如今,中国向许多国家提供高铁技术呢

 

Sam Zhang
Answered Sep 15

Knowledge or technologies is not something can be stolen.

知识或者说技术不能说是偷来的。

If you have a bread, I steal the bread, then you lost the bread and I have it. You can call this as “stolen”, because you lost the item which you owned.

有一块面包,我偷走了,你没有了这块面包,被我偷走了。

你可以说是“偷”,因为你损失了一块面包。

But you have a knowledge/knowledges, I can learn from you. You did not lost anything, both of us can improve the knowledge and even cooperation to bring out better technologies.

而你的技术,我可以向你学习。

你并没有失去任何东西,我们可以共同改进技术。

Learn from others and improve it, this is how the human society get to this point today. Once China catch up the gap and nothing ahead to learn anymore, then China will invent new stuffs and others can learn.

向别人学习,然后加以改进,人类就是这样走到今天的。

一旦赶上来,中国就能发明新东西,然后其他国家模仿。

 

Harry Yang, Thinker and Philosopher
Answered Sep 15

No. China paid for the IP of HSR technology. Otherwise, Germany and other countries will sue China for copyright infringement.

不,中国买了高铁技术,否则德国等国家会起诉中国侵权的。

 

Chenhan Shao
Answered Sep 15

No, China bought high speed rail technologies from many foreign companies in a legitimate way.

中国是通过合法途径从国外公司购买高铁技术的

 

Jan Krusat, Born and grown up in Germany
Answered Sep 4

Usually there is an requirement, if a foreign company wants to sell or manufacture its products in China, that it has to give the Chinese government all manufacturing data, so that the Chinese can then build this product themselves and sell it under their own name as a competitor. I have heard of several companies from Germany, which decided that the possible number of sales were not worth it if they had to develop a competitor, who would later push them out of the market.

通常来说,如果外国公司想要向中国兜售产品,那么就必须转让技术。

好让中国公司有能力自主生产。

我听说过几家德国公司,这些公司觉得预期的销售额不大,划不来培养一个竞争对手,而且这个竞争对手可能把德国公司挤出市场的。

 

Ellis Ho, Hong Konger in Mainland China
Answered Sep 3

No, high-speed rail is not a piece of design paper which people can steal.

China has more than 946 patents on various inventions for the development of the high-speed rail. Of course, there are also many patented spare parts or components purchased from other countries for the rail.

China and Germany has strategic partnership agreement on the development of many railway products. In fact, the partnership of CCRC, China and Simens, Germany has metro jointly produced and sold to Brazil and the US.

不,高铁技术不是可以偷的一张设计图纸。

中国有超过946项高铁技术专利

中国和德国在铁路产品的研发上建立了战略合作伙伴关系。

 

Richard Saw
Updated Thu

Good question. If you claim China stole somebody works, 1st you have to ask the Japanese how do they emulate those technology from the west during 70’s and 80’s. I remember CD player was not invented by Japan, it was a piece of invention by a research team in United States. Japanese took the technology and perfect the prototype and was later sold back to United States. Liquid fuel combustion engine was not invented by Japanese, its was built by American George Brayton. However, Japanese knocked it down, studied the engine inside out and built a more compact fuel efficient engine, which are now flooding the American car market. It is a continuous learning curve for everybody. From emulation to invention. It is a matter of knowledge accumulation, and a process that nobody could escape. I trust China has slightly crossed the 1st stage and moving toward the second stage – machine perfection and subsequently build its own branding. As we know, China is not just hungry for the high speed train, they are ardently looking for other technology as well. Needless to wait long, in given time, China could build a technology empire in the foreseeable future.

问得好。

如果有人说中国偷了技术,那还是先问日本人在70年代和80年代时如何模仿西方技术的。

记得CD播放器不是日本人发明的,而是美国一个研究团队的发明。

日本拿走这项技术后加以完善,然后把产品卖回到美国去。

液体燃料的内燃机也不是日本人发明的,而是美国 George Brayton造出来的。

然而,日本人通过拆解,把其研究了个透,然后造出一款更紧凑的液体燃料内燃机。

如今,这款内燃机已经席卷了美国汽车市场。

对每个人来说,这是一个持续的学习曲线过程。

从模仿到发明,这是知识积累的过程,是每个人都要经历的。

我相信中国已经跨过了第一个阶段,正朝向机器完善的第二阶段迈进,随后就是打造自己的品牌。

众所周知,中国不仅渴求高铁技术,而且也在热烈追求其他技术。

不用等太久,在可预见的未来,中国也能打造一个技术帝国的。

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